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OBD Kangoo ZE 2011 : reset DTC33d496 error #1117
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hello there I could look remotely for you if you have: If the error is cleared though and the fault has not been rectified or part changed if needed the DTC code will either not be able to be cleared or will be cleared and possibly come back again . |
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Thank you for your answer, I actually understand. Is this type of equipment "Konnwei Kw902" insufficient? |
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if its Bluetooth and not wifi version I think it will be OK |
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Hi, this error code also appeared on an electric Renault Fluance. Can you tell me what the solution was in Kangoo, to see if it helps me too? |
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Je n'ai malheureusement aucune solution à proposer pour ce code erreur...!!
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Thank You. |
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Hi. I have the same DTC 33d496 on Renault Fluence ZE. Can you tell if you found what the solution was? |
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Unfortunely i hvnt found any solution..!
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You probably need a new battery After the guided diagnosis, I work at Renault, the code means that a new battery must be installed. |
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what to do if DTC33d496 error keeps showing after installing new traction battery for Renault Fluence ZE? |
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As far as I got it, you have to replace cells and reset SOH value on BMS (LBC) EEPROM. You can buy a manual how to do this: https://evclinic.eu/evc-knowhow-academy/renault/bms/kangoo-ze-33d496-reset-operation-manual-190520251235123/ |
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I have Renault Fluence ZE 2012.
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As far as I got it, you have to replace cells and reset SOH value on BMS (LBC) EEPROM. You can buy a manual how to do this: https://evclinic.eu/evc-knowhow-academy/renault/bms/kangoo-ze-33d496-reset-operation-manual-190520251235123/
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Renault's 33D496 = Nissan's P33D4. BMS DTC's are the same, just ignore the last 2 digits. According to Nissan's manual, it's "BATTERY DETERIORATION DIAGNOSIS - BATTERY INTERNAL RESISTANCE DIAG". It shows up when SOH and Hx get too low. Can be caused by bad cells, but not necessarily. Disassembling the battery is inevitable to find the exact cause. There are multiple ways to reset SOH/Hx on this battery. One of them is overwriting the checksums in the EEPROM of BMS #1. For Kangoo 22kWh battery, these are located at address 4-5 and 8-9 (16 bit values with least significant digit being always "A"). This causes both copies of battery data to become invalid, forcing the BMS to reload factory defaults from flash. |
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Thx, for the explanation. There is some reverse engineering. Have a Look over here: https://www.renardspark.com/ To reset the EEPROM HX data, there is a direct way with ddt possible:
Note: there is SOH and Mileage inputs files, you can't modify. Or well, I will not overwritten. I guess to reset battery mileage you still have to access eeprom directly, set to zero and do the right checksum. Well, this will be interesting. After rebuilding a old battery pack, reset to zero and get the real mileage. Well with reset degradations values, the car will also use full power for acceleration and recuperation for a while. Until the SOH / HX value is back to the more or less real value. I did the reset, because my car was at 62% SOH, over the last 6 months it dropped back to 67%, so I gained +5% of SOH for the moment. Long-term goal, will be a battery swap. But with larger capacity, now I try to fine way how get the LBC handle more capacity than 44kWh... |
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Hi TheSmartGerman, |
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Well, in fact I use Pyren3 in DDT-Mode... I do have Version 4.4 for the LBC. May you need a older ECU Database... ddt4all or pyren3 use the same database. Even ECUTweaker for mobile phones. 
You should have ddt_all_command list 
In Expert Mode your are able to write 
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Hello,I installed Python 3 and PyRen, so far this runs.Since I only have a DDT4ALL database (ecu.zip with thousands of jsons), your xml of the LBC was very helpful. But we are missing a project file and eculist.xml.We do not want to do any other diagnosis than tweaking the SoH value for this single car. If you could send me those two missing files, this would be sufficient, I think.Best regards, ChristianAm 03.08.2026 um 21:47 schrieb TheSmartGerman ***@***.***>:
Well, in fact I use Pyren3 in DDT-Mode... I do have Version 4.4 for the LBC. May you need a older ECU Database... ddt4all or pyren3 use the same database. Even ECUTweaker for mobile phones.
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You should have ddt_all_command list
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In Expert Mode your are able to write
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R_L38_X61_EV_LBC_v4.4_20140407T155120.xml
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Your byte string contains data that cannot be modified and does not match that of other vehicles. If you use this string with other vehicles, the ECU will respond negatively to the modification request with code 7F3B22 (NR: Conditions Not Correct Or Request Sequence Error). |
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Of course it must be the exact same type of battery (Kangoo 22kWh). But there's nothing related to a particular vehicle in that string. These are just the factory values which the firmware uses when the EEPROM is corrupt. That 7F3B22 error is related to two 32-bit values in the string (00ffffff and 00006003). I don't remember exactly what these are, but it does not allow decreasing these values. They can only be the same or higher. Maybe mileage and total kWh? Ahh, that makes sense. Then just copy these two values from the 2161 response. |
An even simpler method is to use a preparatory script, as shown in the photo above. It automatically inserts the bytes to be modified, making it universally applicable. There is no need to search for parameters within the ECU screens, making it a safe option for the occasional programmer. |
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Hola pero esta es la parte software antes se debe cambiar la celda resistiva , yo estoy reparando en este momento batería Renault Kangoo ez 22kw |
sure, but in some countries you have periodic technical inspection. Some are quite strict. And if there is a HV error, you'll not pass there test. Because it's not "safe" to be driven on public roads. Sooo... the car is scrap. BUT if you reset, error is gone. No one cares if you only can drive 50km with your remaining battery power... Sure new cells would be perfect! |
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hi guys, im experiencing trouble with this, i´ve managed to complete every step u guys made.. except when i change the data and write, after 2 seconds everything that i changed turns back to original value tried to use 2 different ELM 327 adapters (aliexpress) and tried it with the [R_L38_X61_EV_LBC_v4.4_20140407T155120.xml] file too can you help me pinpoint what is going wrong i wanna check if im able to achieve the SOH reset and replace cells sincerly |
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After the write cycle, you have to Power down the LBC. Turn off ignition close doors, may lock it and wait untial dash Display is going dark. |
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Hi @TheSmartGerman thankyou for replying! i've tried to let the LBC go into ''sleep mode'' but it still doesnt seem to work. when i try to erase the fault or go back and look at the values they stay the original number.. here is an video: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1k69TVjgr2ub_3-fBj9gZh6ErPJg0JZOx/edit?pli=1 |
Well, can't see your values in detail. But you can't reset / write the SOH value. You have to change the degradation values. After writing and powercycle the LBC should report a new SOH value: 
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Hi, yes i tried only changing that 4 values to 0.99, but the result keeps the same. this is the log i recieve from ddt Button pressed:61_#24_b1_KCAPL initial value set done flag so it says wrong response |
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maybe you are not doing it in the correct mode for the conditions to be met. - sometimes you have to meet conditions with ddt4all which is you might have to use 'park mode' - this is , with the engine on put the car into (D) drive then turn car off , put keycard in the slot but do not press clutch or brake but press the 'start' button this should put car into park mode. Good luck |
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Hi thanks for responding-helping! i´ve tried every condition i can think of, like turning key, acc 1-2-0, no key, after hard reset, put in in D, put in in P but this dont seem to make an difference to the outcome at all |
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Well, I've done this several times now. P-position is fine. Just IGN on, connect to LBC, go to the DataRead, switch to Expert mode. Change the values -> write. PowerCycle the LBC. BUT it was reported you may have to drive a few miles/km. You can give a try. After the write button -> drive a few km. And try a power cycle than... Have a lock over here: #1117 (reply in thread) Edit: There is a macro available. I've to check. I can share it later. |
Typ this into a *.cmd file, put in into macro folder and run... should be all. |
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Hello, I am new to github. I live in France and I own a Kangoo ZE. I am looking for a developer who would be able to detect and clear the DTC33d496 error on my kangoo ZE 2011. I noticed that the canze application supports the error code on the zoe but that, on the other hand, the application does not is not developed for the kangoo. I am ready to finance the development project.
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