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xlang: the snake_case conversion of field names is not specified, and the runtimes do not agree #4187
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The xlang specification says that field names are "converted to snake_case" (docs/specification/xlang_serialization_spec.md, lines 882 and 1732), and line 1800 refers to "the snake_case field name". It does not define the conversion. Each runtime has its own conversion, and the results are different for acronyms, an acronym followed by a digit, a leading capital letter, and non-ASCII capital letters. Rust and Python write the declared field name without a conversion.
Java, Kotlin, Scala, JS, Dart, C#, Swift, and C++ agree for lowerCamelCase names that have only single ASCII capital letters: they all write createdAt as created_at. A Go field must be exported, so Go writes created_at for CreatedAt. Rust and Python write the declared name, so they match only for a field declared as created_at.
Field name written to TypeDef/TypeMeta (apache/main at a11d257)
Every cell comes from a probe program that ran the runtime code at a11d257 and, where possible, encoded and decoded a real TypeDef/TypeMeta.
| Input | Java, Kotlin, Scala, JS | Go | Dart | C#, Swift | C++ | Rust | Python |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
createdAt |
created_at |
(1) | created_at |
created_at |
created_at |
createdAt (2) |
createdAt |
fooURL |
foo_u_r_l |
(1) | foo_u_r_l |
foo_url |
foo_url |
fooURL (2) |
fooURL |
URLValue |
_u_r_l_value |
u_r_l_value |
u_r_l_value |
url_value |
url_value |
URLValue (2) |
URLValue |
HTTP2Server |
_h_t_t_p2_server |
h_t_t_p2_server |
h_t_t_p2_server |
htt_p2_server |
http2_server |
HTTP2Server (2) |
HTTP2Server |
CreatedAt |
_created_at |
created_at |
created_at |
created_at |
created_at |
CreatedAt (2) |
CreatedAt |
x2Y |
x2_y |
(1) | x2_y |
x2_y |
x2_y |
x2Y (2) |
x2Y |
fooÖl |
fooÖl |
(1) | (3) | foo_öl |
fooÖl |
(4) | (4) |
already_snake |
already_snake |
(1) | already_snake |
already_snake |
already_snake |
already_snake |
already_snake |
- Go writes only exported fields, so a name that starts with a lowercase letter does not reach a Go TypeDef. The
SnakeCasehelper givescreated_at,foo_u_r_l,x2_y, andfooÖlfor these names. - The Rust runtime writes the raw name (probe of
TypeMeta::newwithFieldInfo::new), but#[derive(ForyStruct)]does not compile for a field name with an ASCII capital letter (error E0063, "missing field"). The derive converts identifiers to snake_case atobject/util.rs:410and:422. fooÖlis not a valid Dart identifier.- Rust and Python stop with "Unsupported character for LOWER_UPPER_DIGIT_SPECIAL encoding". Java writes the name as UTF-8.
Some runtimes use a second conversion for the field sort order and the struct fingerprint, and for some inputs it gives a different result from their written name:
| Input | JS sort and fingerprint | Rust sort and fingerprint | Python sort and fingerprint |
|---|---|---|---|
fooURL |
foo_url |
foo_url |
foo_url |
URLValue |
url_value |
url_value |
url_value |
HTTP2Server |
htt_p2_server |
htt_p2_server |
http2_server |
CreatedAt |
created_at |
created_at |
created_at |
fooÖl |
fooÖl |
fooÖl |
foo_öl |
In C#, Swift, and C++, the second conversion gave the same result as the written name for every input.
Conversion functions
- Java:
StringUtils.lowerCamelToLowerUnderscore(StringUtils.java:259), applied atTypeDefEncoder.java:277. The probe built an xlangTypeDef, wrote each field withTypeDefEncoder.writeFieldsInfo, and found the decoded names inTypeDef.getEncoded(). Kotlin and Scala use this fory-core path and were not probed separately. - JavaScript:
lowerCamelToLowerUnderscore(TypeMeta.ts:979) writes the name (TypeMeta.ts:917).toSnakeCase(TypeMeta.ts:1059) gives the sort key, the fingerprint, and the read match. The probe encodedTypeMeta.fromTypeInfo(...).toBytes()and decoded the names. - Go:
SnakeCase(go/fory/util.go:60), applied atfield_spec.go:427and written attype_def.go:509. Unexported fields are skipped attype_def.go:494. The probe ranbuildTypeDefanddecodeTypeDef. - Dart:
_toSnakeCase(fory_generator.dart:5739, called at:1984). The runtime writes the generated identifier unchanged (type_resolver.dart:1181). The probe ranbuild_runnerand readTypeDef.encoded. - C#: the generator's
ToSnakeCase(ForyModelGenerator.Analysis.cs:2803, called at:1490) and the runtime'sLowerCamelToLowerUnderscore(TypeMeta.cs:81, applied at:333). Both usechar.IsUpper, so they convert non-ASCII capital letters. The probe compiled a[ForyStruct]class with the source generator and round-trippedTypeMeta.EncodeandDecode. A type with bothcreatedAtandCreatedAtfails the build with FORY016 ("duplicate structural field identity 'created_at'"). - Swift:
lowerCamelToLowerUnderscore(TypeMeta.swift:1123, applied at:267). The probe compiledSources/Foryand round-trippedTypeMeta.encodeanddecode. The macro'stoSnakeCase(ForyObjectMacro.swift:3698) gives the sort order; the probe ran a verbatim copy of it, because the macro build needs swift-syntax. - C++:
to_snake_case(cpp/fory/util/string_util.h:287), applied attype_resolver.h:1183. The probe builtfory_serialization, ranFieldInfoBuilder::build(), and round-trippedTypeMeta::to_bytesandfrom_bytes. The sort order usesnormalize_field_name(type_resolver.cc:1540), which calls a second, file-localto_snake_case(type_resolver.cc:1479). - Rust: the derive passes the raw identifier to
FieldInfo::new_with_id(rust/fory-derive/src/object/field_codec.rs:201). The probe ranTypeMeta::newwithFieldInfo::newand decoded the result.to_snake_case(string_util.rs:110) gives the sort order and the fingerprint. - Python: the raw dataclass attribute (
meta/typedef.py:1302), written bytypedef_encoder.write_field_info(typedef_encoder.py:247), which the probe ran with a recording buffer._to_snake_case(struct.py:1183) gives the sort order and the fingerprint. The probe did not runbuild_field_infosor the fullencode_typedef, because pyfory does not import without its native extension.
Proposal
Define one exact conversion in the xlang specification, apply it in every runtime for the written name, the sort order, and the fingerprint, and add known-answer cases (for example, the names in the table above) to the cross-language tests. A change to the conversion changes the wire names of some fields, so the specification must also say how existing data with such names is handled.
Related
We found no existing issue for this problem. The row-format schema-evolution work in #3714 uses the Java field-name conversion for its wire names and documents the portable subset, ordinary lowerCamelCase names, until this issue is resolved.
What did you expect to see?
xlang schema should always produce the same normalized names
What did you see instead?
different languages produce different names for the same schema
Anything Else?
Issue diagnosed with Claude Opus 5.5
Are you willing to submit a PR?
- I'm willing to submit a PR!
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dhruv-dagar commentedon Oct 19, 2026
Hi @stevenschlansker , I would like to contribute to this issue
dhruv-dagar commentedon Oct 19, 2026
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