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Umbrella issue: Switching from Jira to GitHub Issues #14542
I think importing all issues regardless of status makes sense as there is no cost to us ( excl. migration script run time) and it has the benefits of keeping all previous discussion and knowledge in one place e.g. for new (and old but they might know to also check jira) contributors to look through prior to opening an issue or for the directional links between issues.
Reacted by Joris Van den Bossche, Rok Mihevc, Todd Farmer, h-vetinari, Matt Phelps and Nic Crane
Should we add to the conventions something around severity/priority? I am thinking mainly around how to manage and mark blockers for the Releases. Maybe with a label marking blockers is enough and we don't need more granularity
I think blocker should be a label outside of any other categorization schema. Having additionally at least a distinction between bug and enhancement makes sense imho. I don't think anything more granular than that is needed. (+components ofc)
It seems to be possible for the PMC to switch the jira project to read-only, later on it is also possible to hide it from the web (logged in users can still find it though).
INFRA-23563 has a detailed description of their migration including the use of a service account to import the tickets
I think importing all issues regardless of status makes sense as there is no cost to us ( excl. migration script run time) and it has the benefits of keeping all previous discussion and knowledge in one place e.g. for new (and old but they might know to also check jira) contributors to look through prior to opening an issue or for the directional links between issues.
I opened #14546 so we can discuss this further if anyone wants.
Labels: I think we should review and clean up existing GH labels, which are a bit ad hoc. Any "official" labels should be namespaced so that they can denote multiple categorization schemes without being too much of a mess (for example "Component: C++" rather than simply "C++")
Component: I would suggest to prefix existing component names with "Component: " and turn them into GH labels
Fix Version: can apparently be turned into a GH milestone
Affects Version: this one I find less useful in practice (and it's not consistently filled in), we might simply drop it
Issue Links: we should at least find a way to migrate the existing ones, as they contain valuable information. One possibility is to append them at the end of the issue description.
Things like Affected Version could probably be part of the bug report template instead of being a label. They are helpful information when reproducing issues and thus would be good to have them included in the report, but they have less value in terms of filtering and thus are not very helpful as labels.
Absolutely 👍 on namespacing labels, it's very important to be able to get all possible values of a label in autocomplete.
By way of a quick status update, this sample issue represents the current state of the import mapping work. The migrated content now includes a reference to this gist, a very early draft of migration reference information for the community. Feel free to contribute PRs against that as needed.
One big difference between jira and github is that normal users can only edit the issue body and can not add any meta info unless they are a committer (e.g. assigning it, adding labels...). Some of this can be initially set via issue templates but we might need to think about ways to make issue management available to more people.
We can add up to 20 triage users thatt can modify issues but that is pretty restricted.
Another option might be to use bot commands that allow users to update the issues they created with an additional allow list for contributors with more permissions to extend the 20 traige user slots.
Issue type: it would be nice if we could keep a distinction between user-visible improvements ("Improvement" or "Feature request") and internal improvements such as refactors ("Task").
One big difference between jira and github is that normal users can only edit the issue body and can not add any meta info unless they are a committer (e.g. assigning it, adding labels...). ..
Another option might be to use bot commands that allow users to update the issues they created with an additional allow list for contributors with more permissions to extend the 20 traige user slots.
I would personally wait with starting using bots for this until we notice it might be a problem. On the short term, we can give triage rights to those people that do triage of issues and are not yet committers (at the moment I don't think it would be more than 20?)
A general thought about the migration and our usage of issues going forward:
I think it is important that we copy over relevant information for the existing issues in an appropriate way (otherwise we could just start fresh...) but we also want to avoid falling into the trap that is emulating JIRA 1:1 with issues. This is a new system with different capabilities and ways to do things.
Finding ever more intricate ways to emulate JIRA will only create unnecessary busy work and make it harder for new contributors to understand the system and why/how it diverges from "normal" GitHub issues.
Links to pull requests don't yet seem to be included?
This is correct. I've opened #14710 to address this. Please comment there on requirements (e.g., would a comment in the migrated issue suffice? does the PR need to be updated, and if so, how?)
Milestone field is not yet populated?
Correct - this is pending populating GitHub milestone metadata, which itself has a few open questions requiring guidance from the community.
In some cases, it seems that links are not correctly converted by jira2markdown.
Thanks for noting - it seems related to the spaces in the Jira link syntax:
[GitHub PR 14495 | https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/14495] adds support ...
I'm not sure how prevalent this is, or how easily it is addressed, but I've opened #14711 to track it.
Another jira2markdown one: it seems the converter cannot handle JIRA markup like {{{}code{}}}
Since it seems we also started to use some JIRAs to track work related to the migration / github usage, I updated the top post with a list of those as well
I would like to propose we migrate Jira issues with this script some day in the coming week. I'll post to the ML as well.
Test processes take about 8 hours, mostly due to API call throttling.
I would like to propose we migrate Jira issues with this script some day in the coming week. I'll post to the ML as well. Test processes take about 8 hours, mostly due to API call throttling.
At the moment we are not migrating the PARQUET issues and the workflows are being updated to support GitHub issues for ARROW and JIRA issues for PARQUET but that is a conversation I would like to start (on the mailing list probably) to discuss how we could manage those simplifying the workflows. Having parquet-cpp on its own repo or fully integrated on ARROW (not a separate JIRA project) are some possible solutions but not sure if the tradeoffs are something we want to deal with.
Reacted by Rok Mihevc, Jacob Wujciak-Jens and Gang Wu
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assignUser commentedon Oct 28, 2022
I think importing all issues regardless of status makes sense as there is no cost to us ( excl. migration script run time) and it has the benefits of keeping all previous discussion and knowledge in one place e.g. for new (and old but they might know to also check jira) contributors to look through prior to opening an issue or for the directional links between issues.
raulcd commentedon Oct 28, 2022
Should we add to the conventions something around severity/priority? I am thinking mainly around how to manage and mark blockers for the Releases.
Maybe with a label marking blockers is enough and we don't need more granularity
assignUser commentedon Oct 28, 2022
I think blocker should be a label outside of any other categorization schema. Having additionally at least a distinction between bug and enhancement makes sense imho. I don't think anything more granular than that is needed. (+components ofc)
assignUser commentedon Oct 28, 2022
I have searched through INFRA jira to see how other projects handled the transition to issues and have found some relevant tickets:
Take aways:
nealrichardson commentedon Oct 28, 2022
I opened #14546 so we can discuss this further if anyone wants.
pitrou commentedon Oct 31, 2022
Labels: I think we should review and clean up existing GH labels, which are a bit ad hoc. Any "official" labels should be namespaced so that they can denote multiple categorization schemes without being too much of a mess (for example "Component: C++" rather than simply "C++")
Component: I would suggest to prefix existing component names with "Component: " and turn them into GH labels
Fix Version: can apparently be turned into a GH milestone
Affects Version: this one I find less useful in practice (and it's not consistently filled in), we might simply drop it
Issue Links: we should at least find a way to migrate the existing ones, as they contain valuable information. One possibility is to append them at the end of the issue description.
amol- commentedon Nov 2, 2022
Things like Affected Version could probably be part of the bug report template instead of being a label. They are helpful information when reproducing issues and thus would be good to have them included in the report, but they have less value in terms of filtering and thus are not very helpful as labels.
Absolutely 👍 on namespacing labels, it's very important to be able to get all possible values of a label in autocomplete.
assignUser commentedon Nov 2, 2022
Some more questions to discuss:
Example from Beam:
toddfarmer commentedon Nov 4, 2022
By way of a quick status update, this sample issue represents the current state of the import mapping work. The migrated content now includes a reference to this gist, a very early draft of migration reference information for the community. Feel free to contribute PRs against that as needed.
assignUser commentedon Nov 7, 2022
One big difference between jira and github is that normal users can only edit the issue body and can not add any meta info unless they are a committer (e.g. assigning it, adding labels...). Some of this can be initially set via issue templates but we might need to think about ways to make issue management available to more people.
We can add up to 20 triage users thatt can modify issues but that is pretty restricted.
Another option might be to use bot commands that allow users to update the issues they created with an additional allow list for contributors with more permissions to extend the 20 traige user slots.
pitrou commentedon Nov 10, 2022
jorisvandenbossche commentedon Nov 10, 2022
I would personally wait with starting using bots for this until we notice it might be a problem. On the short term, we can give triage rights to those people that do triage of issues and are not yet committers (at the moment I don't think it would be more than 20?)
assignUser commentedon Nov 15, 2022
A general thought about the migration and our usage of issues going forward:
I think it is important that we copy over relevant information for the existing issues in an appropriate way (otherwise we could just start fresh...) but we also want to avoid falling into the trap that is emulating JIRA 1:1 with issues. This is a new system with different capabilities and ways to do things.
Finding ever more intricate ways to emulate JIRA will only create unnecessary busy work and make it harder for new contributors to understand the system and why/how it diverges from "normal" GitHub issues.
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toddfarmer commentedon Nov 22, 2022
@jorisvandenbossche:
This is correct. I've opened #14710 to address this. Please comment there on requirements (e.g., would a comment in the migrated issue suffice? does the PR need to be updated, and if so, how?)
Correct - this is pending populating GitHub milestone metadata, which itself has a few open questions requiring guidance from the community.
Thanks for noting - it seems related to the spaces in the Jira link syntax:
I'm not sure how prevalent this is, or how easily it is addressed, but I've opened #14711 to track it.
Thanks, I've opened #14712 to track this.
pitrou commentedon Nov 23, 2022
Can we also try to migrate the JIRA labels
good-first-issueandgood-second-issue? They are useful to mark issues suitable for fledgling contributors.toddfarmer commentedon Nov 23, 2022
Good suggestion! I've created #14724 to track that.
jorisvandenbossche commentedon Nov 24, 2022
Since it seems we also started to use some JIRAs to track work related to the migration / github usage, I updated the top post with a list of those as well
rok commentedon Jan 8, 2023
I would like to propose we migrate Jira issues with this script some day in the coming week. I'll post to the ML as well.
Test processes take about 8 hours, mostly due to API call throttling.
Test import and some example issues 1, 2, 3.
I think the key remaining questions are:
wgtmac commentedon Jan 11, 2023
@rok Quick question: will JIRAs opened for the parquet-cpp be migrated as well?
e.g. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PARQUET-2225
raulcd commentedon Jan 11, 2023
At the moment we are not migrating the PARQUET issues and the workflows are being updated to support GitHub issues for ARROW and JIRA issues for PARQUET but that is a conversation I would like to start (on the mailing list probably) to discuss how we could manage those simplifying the workflows. Having parquet-cpp on its own repo or fully integrated on ARROW (not a separate JIRA project) are some possible solutions but not sure if the tradeoffs are something we want to deal with.
Update BugReports field in DESCRIPTION
MINOR: [R] Update BugReports field in DESCRIPTION (#33809)
rok commentedon Feb 17, 2023
With the
master->mainchange complete we can probably close this out too?nealrichardson commentedon Feb 18, 2023
Weren't there some follow up tasks to update website and docs to say main, and remove some "master|main" code? Or have those been done too?
assignUser commentedon Feb 19, 2023
Those remaining tasks are tracked here #31142
This issue can be closed. Thanks to everyone for the good work!
MINOR: [R] Update BugReports field in DESCRIPTION (apache#33809)